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or not to provide it, because if you read deeper, then the assistance, if we provide it, may be less, may be different, that is, in fact it means such a free interpretation of the current situation, a discussion in order not to drive ourselves into a corner tomorrow in any situation, so i would say here too that let's see how the situation will develop, in particular, i am more concerned now about the behavior of... european partners, and as far as i am concerned, they have become more active, at least the same emmanuel macron, the germans in the person of friedrich merz, well, i'm not talking about cyrus starmer, because the position is clear there, the british said that they are in favor, and if the decision is made, then from them there will simply be clear implementation, order, timely, in the necessary volumes and in the necessary quality, so from my point of view, in the current... situation
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, the europeans dominate in this regard and should dominate, then the question arises, why did the wiesbaden create a management system then, which today actually completely takes care of aid to ukraine, this is a very important unit in this regard, and here i would say so that the role of both the secretary general and nato comes to the fore. as for donald trump, we will gradually see how he will master... the material part, what decisions he will make, how he will correct his actions, because as can be seen from everything, these actions are very serious, corrections have been made recently. mr. roman, you mentioned the europeans, who are our partners, who have supported us since the first days of the great war, who clearly articulate their position. at the same time, there are europeans who have also become more active, some europeans, in particular, the prime minister of hungary. viktor orban,
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because he was with trump at his residence in the united states a few days ago, then spoke on the phone with putin for an hour, what they talked about there is unknown, after which orban said, did he suggest in absentia to zelensky to declare a christmas truce, to arrange an exchange of prisoners of war, i'm lost in the versions of whose side in this... in this situation orban takes, that is, is it trump 's or putin's, is it possible, is there already some agreed position between trump and putin, but he voices orban, or is it just orban's position, which today, i've been following, is very strongly supported by russia in the media, they say, szijjarto spoke with lavrov, and szijjarto says, well , ukraine doesn't want to go to a christmas truce, who is orban in the current situation
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and why is he acting as a peacemaker, as a person who is trying, well, relatively speaking, in the paws, to reconcile russia and ukraine? mr. serhiy, from my point of view, everything is simple here. orban is an agent of the kremlin. he is a person who carries out the instructions that are made in the kremlin. these are now the messages of the last two days from orban and fico, one is wondering what troops can go to... the country he said something like that, what is the impression that the man is good, you generally remember what you are saying, as for this supczyk, the reason is clear, he reigned in the european union for six months, he reigned 0.0, well, he went there several times to putin, xi jinping, to the iranian ayatollahs, and several times to... he visited
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maralago, to trump, and if he sees himself as almost a world peacemaker and so on, there is absolutely no point in this, in this activity of orban. moreover, he thinks that by doing this, in terms of information, he can cover up his inaction as the country presiding over the european union. in fact, this is nothing more than serving the narratives and information operations that the special services of the russian federation are constantly using and nothing else. this is, firstly, and secondly, in the current situation, behind this is clearly the realization of orban's own interests, which are, especially, hydrocarbons and so on, and it is covered up by a great desire and ideas. some kind of
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reconciliation, an exchange of prisoners of war, you know, i have to tell you about all these christmas truces, mr. serhiy, those who are listening to us, but i remember them from 2014, all this ended with the fact that after a few minutes the artillery from the racist side started firing, so this round viktor orban sometimes needs to be simply told, well, in a closed mode, not openly, publicly, this should not be done, because after all, somehow he represents the hungarian people, what are you babbling about in this situation, we have already answered this question 100 times... and forgotten, the same applies to prisoners of war, in russia they cannot give advice to the lists they have, well, what is called complete chaos, and so when orban starts a song about this, it is clearly a game on the kremlin's movement
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that ukrainians do not want something or do something, how many times ukraine has already stated its position that it is necessary to first of all return... seriously wounded people who need operations, care and so on, people who have been held captive for a long time, but orban doesn't want to hear this, because he has to fulfill the kremlin's tasks, he works off the money that he is paid in the form of hydrocarbons there and all sorts of other things, so from my point of view, this is precisely orban's presence in nato and the european union. this is evidence that there is some kind of problem there too, because i understand that hungary should not be excluded from either the eu or nato, but it will deprive this man of the right to vote, put him in his place, it would be a very correct step, because this is the first time he
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has made such trips, i understand, including being the eu chairman for eu resources, that this time, he should have said, what is your mandate? and who are you anyway, do you represent whom on these trips, and his minister of foreign affairs, who sings along all the time, i read his statements after this trip to maralago, there are announcements of some big events , a call, and to the fuhrer in moscow, this is a big event from the point of view of szijjarto, which the prime minister of hungary is doing, well i understand perfectly well that he is collapsing in a political sense. that's why he needs these comedies, the ukrainian president's response, it was absolutely correct, i would have said it more bluntly there, better call assad, let him tell you what his friendship with the moscow fuhrer has brought him to, and it will be the same road for both
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orban and szijjarto, mr. roman, but it's enough for orban and szijjarto to do one unpleasant thing or, let's say, do a harmful thing, together they do in... they try to downplay russia's role in this war, that is, they want to put ukraine and russia on the same scale, saying that there are two sides, there is some kind of conflict, and they should resolve this conflict peacefully, without emphasizing that russia is an aggressor country, the leader of this aggressive state is a person who received a warrant from the international criminal court, and ukraine is a victim country that is defending itself, that has lost many people, cities and villages that were burned by racists, that is, isn't this a response to those negotiations that
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may begin before the 20th, after the 20th of january 2025, when these orban and szijjarto will simply draw an equal sign between russia and ukraine, well, there are two sides, let them... reconcile somehow. mr. serhiy, i do not exclude that a certain number of people think so, but we are not with you in 2014, not in 2018, we are already in 2024, because we remember with you, including other moments when jim kerry and lavrov were sitting in vienna, and at the same time in donbass, the russians were shelling ukraine, they had everything in... chocolate, as they say, we have survived all sorts of times with our partners, allies, today, from my point of view, what orban is doing is finishing off, and so with great problems the european union and causing enormous damage to nato. as for
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ukraine, well, unless for those who no arguments reach, it will be some kind of plus, and this is firstly, secondly,... you understand, in the current situation i am more concerned about these trips of his to maralago, because together with these children of the newly elected president... who cannot find a place for themselves and write semi-literate posts, this thing is very dangerous, because in principle, for almost the 11th year of the war , racists have gone against ukraine and the world can already pass, for the most part , at the level of the establishment elite to assess who is who in this situation, but what concerns the brainwashing of trump, this is what... seriously worries me, firstly, and secondly, the damage that is constantly being done
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to the european union and nato, and from my point of view, this should have a reaction from the leadership of the european union, it has already changed and can with full right to react to this, including nato, because you understand, you can say anything you want, but this same person will be... present at the nato council, at a meeting of the top leadership of the european union, well, in the european union they don't always say things that are not desirable to tell the moscow fuhrer, but at nato meetings, especially in the current situation, a lot of important things are reported, which is understandable to me, because of people like fico, orban are becoming very well-known in moscow very quickly, this is a problem from my point of view, and as for... assessments who is who in this situation, i still see that those
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who are needed, i'm not saying in general , they are actually already able to realize and answer the question. andriy yermak, head of the office of the president of ukraine, mr. roman, said in an interview with the public that ukraine is not ready for negotiations with the aggressor country russia on ending the war in the context of strong competing positions, let's listen to what yermak said. we don't have enough weapons, we don't have enough status, which we say we really need an invitation to nato, and an understanding of clear guarantees that would secure us, and so that we would be sure that this would never happen again, and putin would not return in two or three years, and that is why we are talking to partners today, why it is so important... to strengthen ukraine, yesterday, mr. roman, podalak said
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that ukraine is ready for negotiations with russia, in short, let them sort it out in the president's office, whether they are ready or not, but this is the position that andriy yermak articulated, does this mean that we will wait for an invitation to nato, we will wait for weapons and will not enter into any negotiations and will not look for options for suspending the war for. freezing the war, or we will not persuade our partners to certain actions that will not require extra effort from them, because an invitation to nato, perhaps now it looks like extra effort for the participants of the north atlantic alliance. and this is a very multifaceted problem, mr. serhiy, and from my point of view this fuss, where yermak says one thing, podoliak another, hamster a third and so on, all this is a legacy. what i want to answer donald trump very quickly,
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but i want to ask those who are in a hurry, and with the answer, in fact, what problem did donald trump pose, does he understand, what is his plan, this plan is outlined, some kind of estimate is provided for it, of course, the tactics and strategy of the participants in this process, no, donald trump said absolutely clearly, he is looking for an answer, he is trying... to form this answer, in the current situation, he is working, conducting dialogues and so on. now, as for statements regarding tactical, strategic initiative, greater, lesser force, and so on. mr. serhiy, this force may or may not be only in ukraine, it may be, as it became clear, in syria, in africa, because you. from there , from syria, well, i'm not saying that the end has already been set there, who knows
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what will happen there, but the topic, when we talk to you about global politics, and today several players in global politics, this is the european union, this is the united states of america, to some extent china, although not entirely i can fit it into the global player, so when such things are being developed, including what concerns ukraine, the course of the war, it can be influenced from the russian-ukrainian front, and it can even be influenced from south korea, if that... let's not reveal all these things, it can be influenced from japan, it can be influenced from georgia, it can be influenced from africa, whatever, and from my point of view, this is what i have repeatedly said, including in conversations with you, we need to look at the world and our place in this world, understanding who we are,
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what we bring to it, what role we can play in it, and from that, and go when we... say what we need, how to practice this tactic, let's imagine today like this, a blitzkrieg situation: the opposition offensive begins in syria, certain actions begin in iraq, certain actions begin against hezbollah and hamas and the houthis, israel, the ukrainian armed forces begin certain actions, you can imagine the situation in which ... iran, russia and so on find themselves, especially since if at least one of these areas success is being achieved, because it is clear that this whole group, that's evil, it is united today, they just tried to press them in syria, how they all howled, because they realized that they are not able to hold all
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this in all directions, you think why putin invited assad to his place so quickly. because he realized that if he now throws troops into syria, then he will have a huge hole in ukraine, and if we understand all this, and talk about all this with our partners and say: let's not raise it here, here and here, and we will have a picture in which this bastard will simply be forced to beg in order to negotiate, i call on our military-political leadership, rise a little to the situation. and think globally, continentally, precisely for what people elected you, because you can't look from the well into the well itself to the bottom, raise your head and look at the sky, big events are happening there, and these events cannot be ignored. by the way, from my point of view, this
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plan, the so-called zelensky plan, the victory plan and so on, it was no coincidence that he appeared when he... appeared, it's another matter how the partners behaved, but in this situation, from my point of view , we need to think about uniting those who today defend democracy and freedom, if they no longer want to actually gather at the table, so actions are needed that force them to fight together against totalitarian regimes. friends, i remind you that we are working live on the espresso tv channel and... throughout our broadcast we are conducting a survey, today we are asking you about this, whether the western contingent in ukraine to keep putin from new attacks, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, either yes or no, if you have a separate opinion, please leave it under this video on youtube, if you watch us on tv, take your smartphone or phone and vote by the numbers yes 0800 211 381,
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no 0800, 211 382, ​​at the end of the program we will summarize this. voting, mr. roman, the question of whether it is necessary to talk to putin at all and what western leaders should talk about, well, we are not taking szijjarto into account here and orban, they talked to him and met with him throughout russia's great war against ukraine. german chancellor olaf scholz, who spoke on the phone, also spoke to putin for an hour, said he was ready to continue... i quote scholz. it was disappointing because he just kept repeating all his narratives. i'll do it again, but we shouldn't have any illusions. well, frankly, no, no, it's not clear what scholz wants
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to tell the world that he will listen to this, this crazy dictator, and is ready for him again. call. maybe not in the status of the federal chancellor of germany, because mears can come to his chair, and mears' position is quite tough on russia and his position on ukraine is quite clear, he talks about these long-range taurus missiles that can reach ukraine, but this whole dialogue that we see with putin, how someone is trying to talk about something, is there any sense in this at all. any, can it lead to some, some result, considering that putin's position, it is ultimatum, and it was still voiced in december 21st. and in the summer of 23-24th he repeated, but already expanded his demands, adding four regions of ukraine that he would like to receive.
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well, mr. serhiy, you and i, like most of the people we are talking about, they know the answer, so call, don't call, it's all the same, whether the phone rings, whether to go out to the bell, they will ring, the answer will be the same. now the question arises, why are they calling? oh, pay attention. scholz did call, because it was agreed, as it later became clear, there was a certain circle of countries that authorized, and authorized in such a way that if you do something, then the decision to grant a permit for high-precision long-range weapons will not be made, if you do nothing, then the permit will be granted, it actually ended there, it was no coincidence that the results of that conversation were so heavily exhaled. germany's olaf scholz, now as for the others, well, olaf scholz is calling, well , the kremlin servant orban,
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if there was a need for it here, he is also calling, so that, i don't know, obviously, what to report that if he is here, it means he is scattering the clouds and destroying the european union and nato, as for everyone else, from my point of view, similar things. they either have to be coordinated, relatively speaking, gathered at nato, there is such a decision, there is such a rational principle under scholz at that time, if i understand the whole course of events correctly, everyone else, relatively speaking, got bored with it, got bored with listening to the nonsense of this moscow fuhrer, well, absolutely no one needs it. it was, everyone else, relatively speaking, got bored with it him, he got bored of listening to the nonsense of this, the moscow fuhrer, well
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, no one needs it at all, pay attention, donald trump has not called, he has already talked to xi jinping three times during this time, invited him to the inauguration, and he does not invite fivorer, although. for several days on american television , almost on most channels , there has been a poll of the trump team, so who is the enemy and it is called russia, china, i don't remember who there, and china is in first place there, but xi jinping is invited to the inauguration, and this they say go there and sit in your own hole, they keep you secret and don't come out of there, that's how you should behave, and from my point of view, ah... and this basically concerns not so much general political matters as moral and ethical ones, calling the fuhrer, this cannibal, is
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disrespecting yourself, i say again, this can only be done when it is part of some plan or scenario of actions, then it can be explained somehow, and so out of desire, well, this is some kind of nonsense and self-humiliation, but putin is now trying for... literally the last three weeks keep the world in suspense with this areshnik or hazelnut or whatever it's called , and just yesterday, pentagon spokeswoman sabrina singh confirmed that putin could hit the areshnik again with an intermediate-range ballistic missile and warned ukraine about it, of course, and the world. let's listen to what the pentagon spokeswoman said. it is possible that russia could do this in the coming days. i can't name the exact date, but it's important to note
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that if russia decides to launch this missile, it won't change the rules of the game on the field . battle. this will be just another attempt to cause damage and losses to ukraine. we have seen this before, when they tried to use any weapon they have in their arsenal. is this? the decision-maker, mr. roman, putin's last strong argument in the war with ukraine. mr. sergey, it depends on the stock of horror stories that are painted there in the information plan. and due to the fact that if he had already been warned to stop talking about nuclear weapons, then these hazelnuts, cedars appear, there, et. et. and further, although part of what was voiced, especially in the first days after this movie, then in fact, among the list, if missile
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complexes were called launch pads, then those units that are still under development and so on, from my point of view, and no matter what they shoot, they don't hit, this is actually an attack, this is evil, this is a crime and so on, and in this case the word cedar, hazelnut, hazel, hazel, is used only in order to... instill fear, this fear, it affects ukrainians to a lesser extent, but it has a very serious effect on western consumer. and this emotional response, ah, trump, is also a consequence of the information field from which you started today, asking me the first question. well, because in fact, to date, trump, well
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, from my point of view, has not been explained what the moscow fuhrer is playing with and why he started talking about ballistics and so on, especially when the already elected, newly elected president of the united states of america appeared, and where did it come from, why was this argument brought to the surface, and what other arguments will be drawn out in the future, well, it must be said that in recent months , materials have been published in the west almost constantly that analyze these horror stories and the so-called hybrid operations that the kremlin is conducting in western europe, in the united states of america, playing these horror stories that have a very serious impact on public sentiment and have a very strong impact, including
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on the establishment of many states, so from my point of view, and in this situation, when they even started using a direct communication system, because there are relevant bilateral protocols between the united states of america and russia in the event of the use of ballistics, a warning is given, and this fact, which sabrina singh voices, is a component of the relevant warning, well , in the first case. this warning came half an hour before the start of the attack, here it is obvious that there was, there was some signal that it would probably be used, and that is why the pentagon was so tense, well, i will not touch on the decision that was voiced by the embassy of the united states of america in ukraine for citizens of the united states who are in ukraine. against this background, kremlin spokesman dmitry peskov confirmed the intention of the russian
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leadership to take revenge for the well-aimed strike by the armed forces of ukraine on the military airfield in taganrog, which occurred last night. i want to recall the absolutely unambiguous direct statement of the ministry of defense of the russian federation, which was yesterday, which clearly indicates that the response will come when and in the way that is deemed appropriate, said peskov. here another parallel storyline is developing, the deputy chairman of the security council russian federation medvedev flew to beijing. and met , among other things, with the leader of the people's republic of china xi jinping, what xi jinping said after the meeting or during the meeting with medvedev, he spoke about the need to defuse the situation in the war against ukraine. i quote what the leader of china said. regarding the ukrainian issue, china has repeatedly emphasized that it is necessary to firmly adhere to three
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principles, to prevent the spread of the conflict, to prevent the escalation of hostilities and to prevent the parties from adding fuel to the fire, well, obviously, they also wanted to run between the dots, i mean the chinese, when they talk about preventing the two sides from adding fuel to the fire, but can this be taken as a clear signal to putin that there is no need to escalate now, especially when xi jinping is apparently going to... trump's inauguration, and this triad, mr. sergey, well, it is exactly as old as xi jinping, it was born with him, and he constantly repeats it, that there is no need to escalate the conflict, no need to expand the area of ​​operations, we should not use new types of weapons, because this will lead to an aggravation of the situation, in fact, if we take those
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12 points, remember, of the so-called peace plan.

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